Sorry to break the silence with something foul my dears.
Since this public posting went up to defame me, I felt I should post it up and give my response.
Several clients alerted me to this blog post on Cat Y’s forums. Apparently someone had complimented my blog, feeling it was hers. I have bleeped out my surname for privacy reasons of my family:
Cat,
Several of my clients just sent me this from your forum.
by catherineyronwode » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:05 pm
The mixing up of me — catherine (cat) yronwode — with the woman who runs originalninjacat is ENTIRELY a plan and design of HERS. Her name is not cat or catherine.
She took the name cat (and the false appelation “original”) on her web site in order to make herself more well-known than she had any right to be, based on her limited skills and knowledge at the time.
She was a customer of mine — under her real name, and not cat — when she first started out. Early on at her site she displayed a photo of a large order of products she had bought from us — still sitting alongside the very same cardboard box in which we had shipped them to her! — but she had turned all the oil bottles backwards, so you could not see the Lucky Mojo labels, and she claimed that these were her own products. She is anything BUT “original.”
To be clear, my name is Kristen Catherine ****. My mother’s name is Christine. Like my brother Thomas Michael ****, who is called Max, or my paternal grandmother, Jessie Marjorie ****, who goes by Marge, I go by my middle name. So, yes, my fucking name IS CAT. I have gone by this nickname for far longer than I’ve even known of you or would have had any reason to have contact with you. Its not even an uncommon nickname.
My site name or handle, originalninjacat, is actually borne in early 1997, long before you and I ever met. It actually was the nickname I got from my friends in college. Since NinjaCat was taken in 1997, I added original. It is my drunken alter-ego from college. So…if you would like me to confirm that with all the people I went to college with so you can satisfy yourself that my name CAT doesn’t come from love of you, feel free.
I did used to use your products in my work, and that’s what the caption said under that photo from 5+ years ago when I did still use your items. I’ll have to go into my old hard drive, but I believe I have a still shot of my own homepage. I used to recommend your shop as the only place to buy legit goods.
My “limited” skills owe no thanks to you. I never took your class and have spoken with you on the phone perhaps 3 times in my life.
I’m sorry I didn’t learn Hoodoo from you, and I’m sorry that I actually looked up to you for a short time in my late 20’s. You mistook my looking up to you for idol worship, apparently, which it never was. I don’t know where you got that I named myself after you, which is so egocentric as to be frightening. And, finally, if you really resented when I sent business to you or used your products in my work, I wish you’d said something 5+ years ago when I still did either of those things.
Have a nice day,
~ K. Cat ****
Seriously, readers – this woman thinks I named myself after her. I’m going to go call my mom and ask her if she knew Cat Yronwode while I was in the womb or crapping myself. Since my mom was in New Hampshire that whole time, and caring for toddlers, and isn’t into the occult, I have to wonder. I mean, I would provide friends I’ve had from childhood and family as references, but anyone who believes what that woman wrote is too blinded by her own egomania as to be of no worry to me. I do actually go over where the nickname comes from, by the way: http://originalninjacat.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/08/do-spells-backf.html (You’ll have to scroll down.)
I’m sure Ms Yronwode will be in shortly to accuse me of plagiarism for having the cockandballs to quote her calumnies against me.
I was a customer once, cat y. I never asked how to use your products from you. In fact, you even said on your site at the time that “real rootworkers” and practitioners buy from you all the time. I didn’t think purchasing ritual materials from you made me some sort of weird stalker trying to be you, but I’ll take that into consideration the next time I purchase from a person named Cat, which every Catherine in the occult is usually called “Cat” so, I will probably have some difficulties avoiding the confusion that by sharing a name with another person (by my mother’s design and not my own,) I must want to be them.
That goes for the rest of you – if you are a “Cat” or a “Kat” and not cat yronwode, she has the name now – we all have to change our very common nicknames, especially if we like the occult or ATRs. Anyone called Cat or Kat or who isn’t Cat Y is COPYING HER. We are not original. That reminds me, too, my dad is a Michael, and so I’m going to have to let him know that Michael Stipe, Michael Douglas, Michael Nesmith, and Micheal Learned are currently fighting it out for that name and we better get my dad to change his name so he doesn’t get in a copyright dispute with the rest of the Mikes and Michaels. Jeez, my mom is getting sued for being named Christine which she obviously stole from the Stephen King masterpiece about an evil car even though it was printed when she was in her thirties.
Clients and readers, here you go, for the last time, I’m not “cat yronwode” and I didn’t change my name to be a Cat (its my middle name.) Yeah, the Ninja Cat is actually me after several shots of tequila. Its not about cat y, even if she believes everything is.
The only person I want to be is myself. I have done my best not to publicly flame other practitioners other than Fruity Dantalion, and you know…I think its sort of sickening that someone would publicly flame me for having a common nickname or thinking that made me want to be her. This is so ridiculous I feel dirty having even had to lower myself to respond, but honestly, I did refer so much business to her store, it makes me sick that this is what she’s convinced herself the reason was. I don’t expect Karma to come in here and say anything, but Karma, since I send people to use your products, or Stormsong.org, or Julia, or anyone – if that made you think I wanted to be you or something, I’m really sorry.
~C
PS – The comments are moderated. Any cat-y-zombies flaming me because they do just want to be cat y are unwelcome to comment. Either have something intelligent to say (for or against me) and I’ll publish that, or you can just go eat shit and die because no one will ever see it. I’m sure the woman who wants me to want to be her will be flaming me amply on all internet fronts as is. So, to those of you who have a beef with me, REJOICE! because now you can talk shit about me all over the internets. 😉
KEEP TALKING SHIT, YOU’RE MAKING ME FAMOUS!
Cat’s Rants: Confessions of an Occult Mastermind 
40 responses to “Open Letter Regarding Forum Post by Cat Y”
One thing…when my guy screams out my name (he screams “CAT”) when he’s climaxing in my bed, does that mean he’s actually thinking of Cat Yronwode, and not me?
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First time commenter – but I found this blog a year or two ago, together with the FAQ section saying you’re not cat y or affiliated with LMCCo. I can understand why she would get upset over people taking credit for what isn’t theirs, but she should get her facts right first.
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I have actually gone to great pains to make sure we are recognized as different entities, and to always make sure that people knew I take no credit for her work, and that I would like credit for mine.
Also, when I’ve spoken with her, she made the joke that if we were both called Dave or Steve would anyone confuse us? I would think, though it was years ago, that alone would tell me she didn’t have some egocentric idea that I want to be her. But, I guess I was wrong.
Either way, as I’ve said, if people actually believe what she said, if people don’t think her statements don’t simply reflect upon her character rather than mine, then I am better off not having them as readers, clients, or friends.
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Wow. I was a student of Cat Y and have known you about the same amount of time. I have never once seen you do anything to connect yourself and have always known the two of you to NOT be connected at all. In fact, your style of hoodoo varies enough to not be the precise same thing and we all knew that you weren’t a student of hers. when I spotted you and one other person, out of an online community of power-hungry energy whores (which Cat Y was not in or connected to in any way) you both stood out as different and very cool, so I don’t see how any sane person would make that connection where there isn’t one.
I always thought highly of Cat Y and this doesn’t seem like her at all. I suspect that someone gave her “information” in a certain kind of twisted light to make it look the way she’s saying it is. Someone like the sort of manipulative creature who ingratiates itself to people in places it wants to be in for personal gain or profit. Not good motives at all and obviously not correct information.
I sure hope Cat realizes that someone is probably giving false info to make her paranoid for a horribly selfish motive. I never knew her to be paranoid on her own, that’s for sure. This is very hurtful to me even though I’m not either party, because it always hurts to see that from someone you hold in high esteem.
And, for the record, back in the day when I used to chat with a webcam in community chats (on my face people, I’m not that kinda gal), some of the guys that would come into the room started calling me Cat because their impression of me was rather feline. Or so they said. I never took the nickname but it sure as hell seemed like a common one, considering I have more than one friend named Cat or Kat also.
I sure hope to see the proper end to this and not a bunch of nonsense.
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Thank you. I appreciate your support.
I don’t care what started the rudeness or delusion on her part. I actually can’t bring myself to respect the opinion of someone who believes I schemed or connived to be her, so I don’t really know what could be said at this point to make me feel better.
I’m not mad anymore. Just hurt and disgusted.
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One thing I am tired of is CAT Y thinking she MADE hoodoo, and is the ONLY person that can comment about the matter. She is so arrogant, and just down right rude sometimes on her forum anyways. When I saw this post on her board, I could not believe that she came off so egotistical.
People need to realize that lucky mojo is not the only site that makes these products. And she is not the only practitioner in the world that knows knowledge of hoodoo.
I am glad Cat (ninja cat) that you took the time to respond and stick up for yourself. You are an excellent wealth of knowledge, and I hope you continue to help others.
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Holy hell!
I’ve been known to order from LMCC but in the future I might have to rethink my purchases!
I am surprised and very disappointed in cat y for injecting such pointless crap into your life.
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Huh. I came to hoodoo/ATR via you & your blog, and knew from the beginning that you and Cat Y are not the same person. I’m not entirely sure how someone could mix you two up, or think that you are trying to impersonate Cat Y, especially considering that you are generally very complimentary about her and her website. Plus, anyone who can read knows you’re based in NH and she is in CA; you’ve stated it several times in your blog and website, as has LMCC.
I was planning on getting a reading from one of her ‘recommended readers’ while you were on vacation (I’m impatient, lol) but am rethinking that decision. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Cat Y in the last twenty minutes. If she’s so sure you’re trying to imitate her, why would she even lower herself to flame you?
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Quite honestly, I don’t know where she came up with this. I am as shocked and mortified as the next person.
As for the vacation, if this makes it so I can’t make enough $$ this week, since its an unpaid vacation, I may have to cut a week off or maybe a bit more. As I said, at this point, I’m just hurt and disgusted.
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I’m sorry Cat, this came up on the graduate list a few months ago and I tried to clear up the confusion but I guess it didn’t work.. I would think that just going by NinjaCat in itself would be enough to make it clear you are two different people and any casual visitor mixing the two up must be some kind of total noob luser for sure.
I’m not sure why it would be wrong to show the products that you use to do work with either, especially if you link back to the store as I think I recall you doing, it’s called making referrals and generating leads and helps everyone win-win all around.
Anyhoo.. praying some solar truth light and jovial peacemaking light on the situation.. all the best shoog.
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The “graduate list?” So, now there’s another list with people who talk shit about me for months and none of my friends tell me? That’s awesome. That just made this day better.
WTF!? I’m so glad I work 16 hours a day for this. This really puts the last…oh, entire lifetime as a student of the occult into perspective. I’m so proud do have my hard work and study degraded and the topic of criticisms just because I have a common nickname. I’m even more proud of all my friends on that list who didn’t call my attention to the calumny when it came up at that time. Its always awesome to have people talk behind your back and everyone going along for the ride to take a jab at you.
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Aside from the absurdity of the accusation, I’m intrigued to learn that Ms. Yronwode feels free to publicly reveal the names of her customers. I wonder if her other customers know that.
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That is sort of a bad thing. Discretion is mandatory in this business.
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It was just a one time thing at the time, you can relax a lil Cat coz youre awesome.
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Eh, I know I’m a hot head and if it looked like it cleared over fast, it was probably best to keep me ignorant. You did what you thought was right. I’m sorry if I’m defensive.
I mean, I’ve heard stranger rumors about myself (believe it or not,) but this one is still pretty fucking out there. The fact that anyone intelligent could believe such a thing is pretty hard for me to accept.
Sorry, Mikey, if I was a bit harsh. You know I love you and I trust you’d do the right thing by me.
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I have been what I consider to be a long time client of your services. I once used one of Cat Y’s recommended readers and the two cannot even compare. You read the cards with your own insight where the other reader told me that she uses the Rider Waite quick and easy deck which was recommended to her by Cat Y because the meanings are printed right on the cards. I can read cards with that deck and I am far from psychic. I could go on and on.
I also love this blog in comparison to the Lucky Mojo Forum because it shows that you care about your craft and your clients. I also know the extent you care about your clients because I can be needy sometimes and you are always there to help. I know that I will stick with your services as long as you will have me. Cat Y should be ashamed of herself for slandering you in that way. I know I will never buy another product from her store.
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Cat Yronwode edited her original post and put your real, full name up for everyone to see. I can’t believe that woman is so vile and egocentric. She should be ashamed of herself for slandering you like that, out of nowhere, just because someone had complemented your blog. Will never buy from her shop again.
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I use Lucky Mojo products and I never would have found that store if not for reading this blog. I imagine that many other readers feel this way and if I owned a business I would be very grateful for the kind of free publicity that you have given LM.
Anyone who has read through all of “Cat’s Rants” knows that time and time again you have done everything in your power short of creating an “I Am a Different Cat” website to show that you admire but are certainly not Cat Y., and though these posts are very upsetting to read I can assure you Original Cat that your true friends and customers will stand by you.
You rock Hoodoo.
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Yes, and the reason I never published my full name online like that is because I have a homicidal ex fiancee who I have reason to believe still feels homicidally towards me. Many of my clients know my full name. Readers too. I’d give it you for the asking if you asked privately.
That said, obviously if she’s so threatened by me, so jealous, that she had to invent a story to protect her ego from that reality, perhaps that speaks more about her (that is the fucking craziest thing she thinks I named myself after her,) than it does me.
I deeply appreciate everyone’s support. While I think it is fine to boycott her and her forums, sites, and shops, I do have friends affiliated with her and I hope that her actions have not frowned upon people who are underserving of being marked by her actions.
I really thought when I was 32 (and my would be aggressor being 62) that this middle school bullshit would be over. Guess not.
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What a big jerk move to put your entire name! I can’t believe that she would result to such pettiness. Funny thing is no one is going to read that post, and i think she just wants someone to comment so it can add more fuel to the fire.
In any case, I appreciate this blog because it has taught me SO much about hoodoo. So thank you truly for that. You are working so hard to go into such depth about things you do not have to. Not for your own ego, but because you want to help others.
The things I have learned here have made my spellwork so much more successful. Its obvious that lucky mojo wants to keep people in a bubble, and have many customers in a state of unawareness to keep them to continue to by lucky mojo products.
In any case, shrug this woman off. You ARE right the more she talks shit it is making you famous 🙂
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I also found LMCC from coming to this site, and it was AFTER reading that you were in no way affiliated with Cat. How unfortunate that she would lash out like that. I recently got a reading with one of her readers and was very pleased with what they said. Im trying not to let this make me think twice about my reading now! In any case. I hope you get this all worked out. No one deserves to be publicly berated for doing nothing at all.
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I personally know some of her recommended readers and would recommend them myself to you, so please do not worry that just because they align themselves along side her that they couldn’t do a good reading. Several of those people I don’t know as well…but I actually can’t speak against them because I would not know about them either way.
The way I see it, I think perhaps the exhiliration of feeling oneself to be the top of their field has gotten to her head and if she perceives that the sand pillars of popularity have started to erode, she tries to support the idea in her mind that she is still number one by lashing out. When that concept in her mind becomes attacked or threatened she tries to over-exert control over those she believes beneath her and drive down those she thinks aren’t staying in her pre-determined proper place she’s chosen for them. What that results in is making obscene claims suchas anyone named Cat wants to be her, or that she invented Hoodoo. So… I do actually feel bad for her.
At least that’s how I see it, and after enough thought and prayer on the matter, I am satisfied with that answer. I’m no psychologist though, so maybe she is gulliable and someone else told her some strange story. Either way, she’s crazy or she’s just mean-spirited and nasty. Neither is anything I want anything to do with.
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It bums me out that the post is sort of a rando diatribe against you. Even IF it was true, it was out-of-place. All that needed to be said was, “Oh, no Poster With Question About Carving A Ginger Penis; we are two different practitioners.”
It’s weird – I have wondered why you weren’t in the AIRR but at the same time, I see you and Karma Zain as being kinda maverick to the Lucky Mojo Machine. You because that’s your style and Karma because she had her own wonderful product line.
And that’s the thing that bugs me about LM. It’s gotten to be so big and such a machine that there is a lack of personal touch.
There are some people on that forum who know absolutely everything. Everything! But they never really help anyone because the answer is always, “We’ve discussed this – go search for it.” So you spend a day searching and you’re still a little fuzzy on what you found but a little freaked out to ask your question again since… you’re probs gonna get sniped at. I definitely feel like I have learned more from your blog than from the entire LM forum and archive pages because they often stop short at the point where you have to buy their stuff whereas with your blog, I can get the actual advisement of how to craft a spell AND how to do the work, how to gather and shift energy.
Anyway, LM oils are strong, no doubt. And the fixed candles (I hope since I finished one last Sunday) seem strong. But it is frustrating that LM seems to be losing sight of the very root of rootworking, which is that it is old timey, discrete mage-ing rather than standardization and branding.
I have gotten readings from you and from an AIRR reader – both were the same with only one, difference and that was really a matter of how you look at the situation. One said to take matters into my hands and speed up the inevitable and the other said to let it stew. Both listed the same outcome.
I liked both readings a lot but what I like about you, originalninjacat, is that there is a more personal advisement. Both said I can do the work myself, which was awesome because I’ve worked hard to get to be a better practitioner. But. I felt that without the shadow of LM, there was a little more personal touch, a little more old-fashioned rootwork. It wasn’t “get a spell kit” with you. It was “Oh! You know what you can do and it’s hardcore but simple?!”
You give the formula for the powder or oil; LM tells you where to buy it.
The ‘tell’ in that post of CY’s was that you advertised LM products as your own. Have you ever made and sold products? In the two years I have been learning from your blog, I’ve not seen you selling anything but readings and workings.
Finally, I can’t justify feeding the LM machine, so… I hope Karma Zain keeps her practice up or you start making a shit load of different oils.
I think it all started out with good intention of creating an archive of folk magic, specifically hoodoo rootwork. But right now in its development, LM isn’t super friendly for newer people and it isn’t as accomodating as it should seem to be to practitioners. If the goal is to record folk magic than really, LM should treat practitioners who are recording and writing with more respect. The universe is infinite and has room for LM and independents.
Too bad; I hope there is an apology at some point.
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The sad thing IS that she had been happy about me ADVERTISING FOR HER and THANKED ME FOR THE BUSINESS several years ago when that was the case. She KNOWS full well I don’t want to be her. We were friendly back in the day! I actually stopped using her products entirely (the only things I’ll purchase through a reseller of cat y’s stock are her genitalia candles,) when the quality of them took a huge nosedive. Five years ago, LMCC’s products were not just one of the few products for sale to the general public made with legit recipies, but also they were fanfuckingtastic. About a year or year and a half after I’d used their products, I bought some items there and they were…alright. I will say to Cat Y’s credit, she once made me the motherfucking most kickass Crown of Success oil ever. That was…over five years ago. Can’t respect someone for an acheivement so old now.
I see it thusly:
1. She made absurd claims in the hopes of discrediting me. What happened was she looked like a paranoid ass.
2. I confronted her personally about said claims. She was too chickenshit to even discuss the matter with me, one on one. So, she’s big enough to talk shit behind my back, but not to say it directly. That reflects on her as well.
3. If she truly believes I ever wanted to be her, she might be wise to see if she can find posts of email chat groups from about 2004 or so when I discovered she existed and actually did not think much of her, and say so in writing. I believe my criticism of the Cat Y zombies goes as far back as maybe even 03. I did like her briefly once I got to know her until she became sick with jealousy over me which did take a few years. We used to joke about people confusing us.
4. I’m sorry her panicked attempts to remain relevant in Hoodoo since she hasn’t done anything groundbreaking in about a decade are to lash out at other rootworkers in the hopes that by putting them down she looks more intelligent or that she matters more, but really, wouldn’t the better solution be to write a new book or something? I mean, attacking me, a person quite content on my little corner of the internet chatting about occultey things is about as sensible as kicking a puppy to show how tough you are would be.
So…fuckit. She’s crazy and a coward. If people want to believe in a crazy cowardly person who’s sycophantic need to be the best has driven her insane then that’s their choice.
I do hope she gets the mental help she is obviously direly in need of, but past that, I can’t be bothered to deal with someone so pathetic that they can talk behind my back but are too frightened to say it right to me (its bullshit and she knows it.)
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I have been reading your site but I am not your client. I knew cat y long before I get to know you. I believe in you cat(ninja) and I never thought that cat y can do this thing. but you know I have a more comfortable feelings to you than her. I am reading your blog and feels more belong here and sometimes I would laugh because of your expressions in writing. Well just wanna say that I know you are nice and cool person.. hehehe blessed be
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I rhink in the very 1st post of yours that I read, you were making it clear that you weren’t cat yronwode. I respect her skill & knowledge, but this is ridulously immature of her. I hate how the buffer of the internet allows people to be more petty than they’d be face-to-face. Keep on doing your thing. It’s obvious which Cat you are.
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Cat Yronwode’s sent her drones onto my youtube page and my yahoo group; and even sent one of her most well known associates to infiltrate my class.
Her argument? That i’ve plagiarized her. Funny thing is, I do nothing like her, from what I’ve heard. I have clients and students who were former students of hers, and they assure me my methods aren’t even remotely confuseable with Cat.
Cat also says I stole her name because my yahoo discussion group is HoodooRootwork….2 very common names, that cannot be trademarked at all. Ive had the group up for 3 or 4 years now, and she only started complaining when she realized I was teaching a class as well. I guess she didn’t like the idea of someone else teaching.
She also pulled the whole “whole name” thing on my youtube page; and threatened me.
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Cat Yronwode always has a habit of slandering the competition. If you’re not one of her “darling crew,” you’re fraudulent, or a plagiarist, or (insert foul thing here.)
I caught Cat Yronwode’s evil eye when someone brought up her page on “Santisima Muerte” on my yahoo discussion group. We have a few traditional mexican curanderos (from family lines and all that jive) on the group, who stated the ritual she mentioned would be considered blasphemy in mexico. So we discussed it, and some of her people on the list were her drones, and showed it to her. We didn’t speak ill of her, we just stated the ritual wasn’t traditional, and she must have been ill-informed. I do believe one person brought up that she must have made it up because of it’s familiarity with her semen-knot cord obsessions (noting that I know this is common practice in a few Hoodoo charms.)
Today she has harassed me on youtube (i blocked her, so she can’t with her own name) and by sending her drones (who may not all be drones, some may be her under other names)
After that, I lost all respect for her. Before then, I just recognized we had theoretical differences.
Piss on Cat Yronwode 😛
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Wow, Virgil, I thought I was the only one who was told she was sending in spies to my chat board. I was like “Um, that’s just so childish, it can’t be true,” but more than one of the “spies” she sent simply told me that’s what they were sent in for when I let them in my group. At the time, I sort of laughed and wondered why anyone would find me threatening enough to send stalkers to my chat board to stalk me. 😉
Hoodoo and rootwork are both terms that predate her by quite a bit, so she can’t “own” them. I have also seen her try to stake a claim on traditional names of condition items, for example “Come to Me” or “Follow Me Boy” etc. While I do support someone’s right to make their own formula w/o a traditional name and stake a claim to THAT name, its beyond ridiculous that she or anyone else thinks that they can own an entire paradigm of spellcraft or traditional names for some traditional formulas. I mean, I won’t call my Hot Foot recipie “Flaming Feets” just to make her feel better. Would you? Obviously not. We’re on the same side from what I can tell.
I can’t believe she thinks teaching classes on rootwork (or any paradigm for that matter) is hers and hers alone, either. You know, Draja Mickaharic has been teaching classes to people (and he does a lot of rootwork) probably as long as she’s been alive if not longer. I guess someone should tell him (and he’s met her,) that he’s “stealing” her ideas and “plagiarizing” her. I’d have to look at her site now but a few years ago she was plagiarising Papa Jim on there. 😛
It seems to me she has a bad case of the “mines” which is something I see toddlers do quite a bit. They grab whatever they like and holler a defensive “MINE” even if the object is not theirs. She has devolved behaviorally and emotionally into a toddler.
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I love Lucky Mojo products and have a lot of respect for cat y and her knowledge and preservation of hoodoo, but she has been extremely “out of sorts” lately. Have no idea what’s up with her, but something is going on in her world.
I saw her the post in the LM forum about you…it was for real.
Now your blog is more up my alley…glad I found it. Foul language, references to drinking, and not 101 rules to get smacked on the ass for.
Keep up the good work!
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Honestly, I’m just glad there’s someone else out there who doesn’t get a long with Cat Y. I’m on her forums and if you’re kind of a n00b and ask a n00b question, she talks to you like you’re an idiot while claiming she’s there to teach. She’s given me 2 warning points, 1 I’ll admit to deserving, but she practically screamed at me for comparing her products to Anna Riva, even though I said hers were better in my experience; the 2nd time I was asking how to use some of LMCc oils I bought locally and the post got deleted and I was warned for it, so I guess it absolutely has to be bought from her directly and a month or 2 elapse before you get it to talk about it on her forum. It’s not like I dropped the name of the shop I bought it from or anything, I just stated I bought it from a local retailer, so maybe if she’s going to be that kind of selfish she should stop selling to other retailers.
I’ve also seen her use full names to ‘shame’ people on her forums and then goes on about aninimity to protect yourself from having roots thrown, but if you ruffle her fur she’ll have a horde of poorly trained workers after you, cause I can’t believe she’s training people very well if she’s that paranoid.
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In the past 2 months or so, I have had more than one person come to me to remark on how crazy and paranoid she’s become. She wasn’t always this way. I feel sort of strange defending someone who would go out of her way to make herself my enemy, but she really was sane and intelligent 4 or 5 years ago.
She’s alienating everyone really fast. She’s acting really psychotic. She’s ruining the very reputation she’s so all-fired-crazy to preserve by her behavior. That’s pretty pathetic and sad.
Her products aren’t even that good.
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She also gave out your full name on Christian Day’s Hex blog talk radio show and talked about how you went around imitating her with your made-up name. Like yronwode is really her last name!
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Yes, I know. Her “friends” told me about it and sent me to listen to the recorded link, but I never did.
What can I do? She’s just making herself look ridiculous, jealous, and asinine. I’m tempted to say more but really, it’s so effing stupid and childish, I’d just be lowering myself to her level.
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Hey Cat, I found your blog via Karma Zain the other day (actually few weeks ago and have been reading since). You’re in company she just recently slammed Denise Alvarado for “plagiarizing” her work. The fact of the matter is she had nothing to do with the individual in question who quoted from Yronwode’s work and didn’t give sufficient credit. The person who was the actual author of the piece has been downplayed but Alvarado is getting accused. Now the person actually did cite her but without permission and poorly (but he had good intentions he just lacks proper citation skills). But again same thing with you full names on her forum and the virtual finger pointing. Its becoming a really horrible trend with her and no one is finding it amusing. A lot of people have been pointing out the timing, she (Alvarado) is coming out with a Hoodoo oriented journal and her own line of product. People just aren’t buying it as a coincidence and really neither am I.
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Wow, glad to know I’m not the only one who has had problems with cat y. I use to be close to cat, but I could not go along with her idea that she is the only one who could teach hoodoo. My mentors and teachers never heard of cat. If I ever made this comment though, her zombies would go after me. I teach and I cannot say I am the only teacher of my subject. That is just crazy.
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Well, after almost a year of open harrassment from her (including live radio and print – it was worse than the most stalkerish ex anyone could have,) and several years of her making up conspiriacies about me behind my back, I have to be honest – I’m more embarrassed for her than anything else. I actually was going to sue for libel at one point, and would have a great case if not for the fact that she actually made me a great deal more business with her behavior. So, while I certainly don’t appreciate some mentally unstable person speaking ill of me where ever and when ever she can, it actually has worked out for the best…for me anyhow. 😉
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oh my! i can’t believe that Cat Y did that. I’ve been reading your archives, and I see that you DO make it very extremely clear that you are not her. It is written time and time again, and you never once bashed her in any way or form. Even when people ask questions about her products in the comments, you also clarify that you are not associated with that website, or her…and then proceed to help as best as you can and then refer them back to her again. I respected you for not stepping on anyone’s toes and be supportive of all your readers. Thank you for all you do-and for free.
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To be perfectly fair since she pulled this smear campaign garbage on me, I’ve been very clear that I do not like her and that I don’t recommend her products and why that is (it’s not because I don’t like her,) and etc. I try to be as pleasant as I can be about it, but I’m sure I’m not that nice about it. 😉 It is one of the most bizarre hatefests I’ve experienced in my adult life…sort of reminds me of middle and high school
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I thought of you when I saw Dr. K’s open post about his dealings with cat. If it helps, it looks like she has gone bonkers. She is just picking fights with people now.
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